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Ben Yagoda's avatar

I'm nonplussed that you didn't include "nonplussed." Or "unphased."

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

Always leave room for the sequel.

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Ben Yagoda's avatar

I know you're already honing in on it.

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Carol Kino's avatar

I just saw "phased" in a story today - NY mag I think!

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Carol Kino's avatar

Hahahaha. Or phased.

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Steven K. Homer's avatar

Come for the copyediting tips, stay for the bidet recommendations - that's quality content!

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heydave56's avatar

In my own brand of civil disobedience, every time I type a period, I follow it with two spaces and then backspace to pretend I'm compliant with your rules, man.

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

I salute your rebellious spirit and your needless extra effort.

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Carol Kino's avatar

I don't want to put in that extra effort! If someone really makes a fuss I'll go through and remove the space for them, the big baby.

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Jenny's avatar

I don’t want to fight about not using two spaces after a period. I just want some sympathy for loving & losing the second space. Another one for your list: bemused. It does not mean amused-but-not-getting-it. It would be nice if it did, but it does not.

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

I learned to type with the two-spaces rule. I didn't love it, and I don't miss it one bit.

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Andrea Behr's avatar

I think bemused may have to go into the skunked words penalty box for a while. You should prepare yourself, though, for the possibility that it will come out meaning just that.

It would be a useful word to have, and it’s already in Webster’s: having or showing feelings of wry amusement especially from something that is surprising or perplexing

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W. Michael Johnson's avatar

I used to pounce on badly played homophones, delighting in my vast knowledge, but I have made enough public errors--including two that *you* pointed out--to lose any sense of superiority. Nevertheless, if we relax it will take about six weeks for the language to go straight to hell.

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Steve Hall's avatar

I agree with everything you said! (No wonder my jaws hurt after a little while on the interwebs.) I would, however, like to see "moreso" become standard, since that's an error I used to make all the time. (I may still make it, along with spelling embarrass with only one "r."

One minor note: when I as a young lieutenant in the Air Force, back in 1974, "RTFM" was a daily reminder as we struggled through mastering both classified and unclassified manuals for the Minuteman weapon system. I'd bet is was fairly common a quarter-century earlier. While I'm sure The WELL originated many of those terms, RTFM wasn't one of them (not that you said it was!).

(I'm also happy to say that mastering those manuals helped, in some small way, to bring about SALT I and II some years later.)

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Donna Miller's avatar

Shouldn't it be Daylight-Saving Time?

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

In a perfect world.

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Benjamin Dreyer's avatar

Man oh man this is the good stuff!

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Dan Freiberg's avatar

How about "Albeit Macht Frei?"

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Charlie Haas's avatar

Great colyum today. I'm reminded that long ago, when they had the Miss Subways "contest" in NY, one honoree's placard on the trains described her busy schedule and then said, "Withal, she has time to" something or other. She later said in an interview that, for years, people came up to her on the street and said, "Aren't you the 'withal' girl?"

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

😂

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Carol Kino's avatar

LOL.

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Carol Kino's avatar

Copy desk? What's that?

Very nicely done and made me laugh out loud. I'm not going to argue about the two spaces, even though I still do it - but that seems more of a typesetting/layout issue than a grammatical issue, and one has to double-space to create the period in iOS.

I'm peeved by the general upmarketing of language:

Authored - why not wrote?

Gifted - why not gave?

Curated - what's wrong with edited or selected?

Countless more.

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

I've never used iOS — does the second space disappear once the period is created?

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Carol Kino's avatar

Yes. But the habit remains.

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Jenny's avatar

Gifted is foil on a filling, nails on a chalkboard, styrofoam squeaking against styrofoam for me.

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Andrea Behr's avatar

I wouldn’t dream of arguing with you.

Does it seem to you that people are using more so where they used to just use more? I asked Grammarphobia about that.

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

It *does* seem that way. There's a whole trend among The Youngs — Ben Yagoda has written about it — to use more words (or more letters: amongst, whilst) when fewer would do.

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Andrea Behr's avatar

I look upon this trend more so with bemusement than anger

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Jenny's avatar

Ninja level reply

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

😂

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Carol Kino's avatar

I think amongst and whilst are anglicisms. I don't know if it's English people using them, though.

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Andrea Behr's avatar

I once got into an argument with two people who grew up in England, with very different accents, over whether the English use plural verbs with collective nouns. They insisted that “the government are taking action” is not used in England, when I’ve seen it and heard it used in British English untold numbers of times. And admired it! During my editing career, it would’ve saved so many problems when I was under strict orders to stick to the singular for collective nouns. ‘’The family is distraught, but some of it is also angry” is the sort of corner you find yourself backed into.

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Jjf's avatar

If I see " tow the line" or "shoe-in" I have to stop reading.

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Tim Hicks's avatar

Yes, we need to put the breaks on alot of this stuff. Liked the crisp explanations.

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Nancy Friedman's avatar

Hah!

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Honolulu Quirk's avatar

Thank you for the immensely handy term S!MT!!OE!!! How have I managed all this time without it??

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Carol Kino's avatar

Thank you for authoring a wonderful post. Can there please be a part 2.

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