All fired-up to claim 'townie' for olde England, but of course you are spot-on and it takes well over a century for the Brits to catch on. They (well, Oxbridge since 18th cent.) have, see OED, always preferred Town (tout court). The usefully rhyming antonym was, naturally in the days when such garb was mandatory, ‘Gown’. Once upon a (medieval) time there were heavy-duty riots in which if heads didn't literally roll, corpses were undeniably created. A less lethal version can be found in ‘Cutherbert Bede’s’ The Adventures of Mr Verdant Green (1857). (And yes I had noticed: I too am doubly gullible: J(ay) Green.)
Thanks for the namecheck, Nancy. I think. I was host of Women on the Well, where several of those involved compared notes, named names, and voted to bring the “cybercad scandal” before the larger Well. It was, to say the least, a more innocent time.
“Honoring”, please. ;-) Oh yeah, the women who’d been involved with him IDed him by name. As you know, the Well discourages anonymous accounts, so we knew who he was, at least the name he’d given when he registered, which (duh) I can’t remember. The Well archives everything, so it’s there somewhere. I don’t know if anyone has done a deep dive, then or since, into discovering who this person actually was.
This entire post needs to be framed. Do you know the month/year of the Playboy article? I can see if the NYPL has it--it looks like they may carry back issues although maybe it's only microfiche.
If it's available in hard copy I'll see if I can get the ToCs for the first half of 1994 - it may take a while, though. It would be miserable to try this with the microfiche.
I am going to teach a class on doing obscure research so wanted to see if I could find this! But my original impetus was that I thought at first that it was playgirl and I'm going to a high school/grade school reunion next weekend with someone who used to work there so I just thought I'd ask her.
Your engaging post certainly got me going on this Labor Day, so thank you! Also, I can't wait to partake of Dan Savage in the NYT, which I have idiotically missed.
Hi Molly -- Dan Savage used to write for The Stranger (Seattle) and now publishes and podcasts on his own site, https://savage.love/ Philip Galanes writes for the Times on Sundays.
It won't surprise you to learn we are discussing this on the Well.
Come on back!
Nothing scurrilous about me, I hope.
All fired-up to claim 'townie' for olde England, but of course you are spot-on and it takes well over a century for the Brits to catch on. They (well, Oxbridge since 18th cent.) have, see OED, always preferred Town (tout court). The usefully rhyming antonym was, naturally in the days when such garb was mandatory, ‘Gown’. Once upon a (medieval) time there were heavy-duty riots in which if heads didn't literally roll, corpses were undeniably created. A less lethal version can be found in ‘Cutherbert Bede’s’ The Adventures of Mr Verdant Green (1857). (And yes I had noticed: I too am doubly gullible: J(ay) Green.)
Thanks for the namecheck, Nancy. I think. I was host of Women on the Well, where several of those involved compared notes, named names, and voted to bring the “cybercad scandal” before the larger Well. It was, to say the least, a more innocent time.
Thanks for honoring us with a visit, Reva! (And a subscription -- whoo-hoo!) I have to know: Did you ever uncover Mr. X's real identity?
“Honoring”, please. ;-) Oh yeah, the women who’d been involved with him IDed him by name. As you know, the Well discourages anonymous accounts, so we knew who he was, at least the name he’d given when he registered, which (duh) I can’t remember. The Well archives everything, so it’s there somewhere. I don’t know if anyone has done a deep dive, then or since, into discovering who this person actually was.
I wish I had known about this word when the Andrew Huberman expose came out.
In my mind, CAD is a kind of modeling software used by structural engineers!
Hi David -- I relegated CAD to a footnote! And yes, Mr. Huberman is an excellent example of a latter-day cad.
This entire post needs to be framed. Do you know the month/year of the Playboy article? I can see if the NYPL has it--it looks like they may carry back issues although maybe it's only microfiche.
I'm guessing that the Playboy article was published in the first half of 1994. Unfortunately, that's all I've got.
If it's available in hard copy I'll see if I can get the ToCs for the first half of 1994 - it may take a while, though. It would be miserable to try this with the microfiche.
Could it be Lust Online, April 1994? https://www.iplayboy.com/issue/19940401
Yes! Excellent sleuthing!
Thank you! I pride myself on being able to track down insanely obscure magazine articles.
Only if you've run out of other things to do, Carol!
I am going to teach a class on doing obscure research so wanted to see if I could find this! But my original impetus was that I thought at first that it was playgirl and I'm going to a high school/grade school reunion next weekend with someone who used to work there so I just thought I'd ask her.
I used to write a monthly column and occasional features for Playgirl!
What a fun- and fact-filled column, Nancy! Thank you (as always)!
Thank YOU, Benjamin!
No relation to Mr. Bounder of Adventure, I presume.
Your engaging post certainly got me going on this Labor Day, so thank you! Also, I can't wait to partake of Dan Savage in the NYT, which I have idiotically missed.
Hi Molly -- Dan Savage used to write for The Stranger (Seattle) and now publishes and podcasts on his own site, https://savage.love/ Philip Galanes writes for the Times on Sundays.
I am not acquainted with this Mr. Bounder.
It's a Monty Python bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz2LaJOVAiA